College educated niggas telling others not to repeat their mistakes is not "kicking the ladder down"

Most people don't have the agency to do that, and most will graduate with a degree they don't do anything with. It's a huge amount of debt, and will cripple the next 5 years, at least, of your life. In theory you should be earning much more afterwards than someone who has only worked, and it could be worth it. But it's a gamble. I think people at the very least would be better off working until maybe 20-22 before going into college with a little bit more intention. Not saying it's for everyone but if someone is a little uncertain taking a couple years to figure yourself out isn't going to influence your final earnings too much and will probably help you find a career that's better for you.

Anecdotally, among my high school friends, college graduation has not had much bearing on someone's financial success.

@nozaki @Twoinchdestroya @Turdicus @WandererUber @Kazak so true, it's not worth it spending $40k a year to find out what you want to do/find yourself. There can be nuance to it but niggas who say "college is never a scam" are clearly slightly more retarded than ones who say it always is.

I know a lot of guys who were early in the tech boom of the late 2010s, many did well for themselves at the time. But pretty much all of them have lost their job at least once since 2022. Other STEM guys are hit or miss. Some doing ok some aren't. I know only a couple finance guys but they are doing well.

>Different from "guy telling all the White boys interested in politics that they should be plumbers"

No one in this thread is saying that. At least from me scrolling up. Kazak certainly wasn't.

Yeah, if college was cheaper I think it would be a better deal, at least where I am I think 1/10 of the price would be reasonable. Colleges make so much money before even collecting the fees they can make it work.

Show me kirk's @ in this thread.

I understand you're not well socialized and don't know what a conversation is, but this is a lesson you can learn for free. I won't even charge you interest.

@WoodshopHandman @nozaki @Turdicus @Twoinchdestroya @WandererUber @Kazak other problem is that the fields Mr. Wanderer is recommending were good 20 years ago but in the past decade companies used DEI to clog every pipeline with visa workers, and now they're doing mass layoffs on a scale not seen since the Great Depression so they can hire even more Africans and Indians.

You can't compete on merit for pay anymore, so youre better off avoiding non-dischargeable debt if at all possible.

@WoodshopHandman @Kazak @Turdicus @Twoinchdestroya @WandererUber @nozaki "firm handshake" bootstrap ass assessment tbh. Boomers need to touch grass and quit thinking the world still looks just like it did in their MASH reruns.

@WandererUber "blah blah I wasn't talking to you, I was talking to people I made up in my head who were upsetting me grr I hate them" ok schizo